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@LDove wrote:

We are awaiting an answer about a guest appearance from a VIP…

Please re-send your request. I evidently did not receive your first e-mail.
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Were you gone?

But seriously, folks…
Welcome back!! 😆

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@tyedyeskyguy wrote:

Well then, free is a good thing! Get him started.

Or her. 😀

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I agree with Seldom Seen that we need professional help. (Heck, people have been telling me that for years. ) Also like Seldom Seen, I’m also in the graphic arts business — as a creative director and editor — and I understand that logos require a process. That’s why I suggested that the time line as now set up by the board is too short. Zuma said it would be difficult to change the time line now, but I don’t understand what would be difficult about changing it. Other than the general feeling among some people that “we need to get something done” I don’t think there’s a hard and firm need for the present deadline. I know a trained graphic artist who is willing to work on this pro bono and will be able to start working on some ideas in late May.

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My 2 cents: Some reviewers do a better job of staying current with Groundspeak’s wishes and edicts than other reviewers do.

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Thanks for the opinions, zuma. My opinions are similar to what you expressed.

And because I know zuma has a sense of humor, I’ll risk differing with others who complimented his writing style by quoting Blaise Pascal: “I have made this letter longer than usual, only because I have not had time to make it shorter.” 😉

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@cheezehead wrote:

OK, Last time I going to post cuz it was not my intention to derail the subject but ask any “Up Northerner” and they would say unofficial line would be Hwy 8.

“Any”? That’s a pretty wide net to cast. I bet I could find some residents of Cornucopia who enjoy looking down their noses at those “southies” from Hayward 😀 Here in SE Wisconsin, we don’t look down our noses at those who live “up north” but we do enjoy making fun of flatlanders from Illinois. My point is that, instead of appreciating how much we have in common, many people like to differentiate themselves from others based on arbitrary boundaries.

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This topic has turned into a free-for-all for ax grinding, but I’ll bite anyway. Lake Wissota State Park — site of the 2005 WGA campout — is in the NW quadrant of the state. I know for a fact that the board has considered hosting events in all corners of the state and has tried hard to extend the “reach” of the events. It comes down to many factors, such as suitability of the park, group camp sites, cooperations from park management, availability of volunteers, etc.

And despite what you might perceive, we’re not beating up on you — just stating opinions. 🙂

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I’ll remember it as one of the best winters ever for cross-country skiing. I figure if you choose to live in Wisconsin, you should choose to enjoy it.

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Is there a specific reason for this timetable other than to try to get it done quickly? The reason I ask is because I know some college students in graphic design who could work on something to submit but they’re very busy now until the end of the semester in mid-May. Could we extend the deadline until the end of June?

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I see no harm (and yes, even some good) in asking this question in a friendly manner without pointing fingers at any person or particular geocache. However, my least favorite type is not on your list. That would be a cache that requires “sleath” because of lots of muggles in the area.

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@Timberline Echoes wrote:

What kind of caching do you think you may want to do?
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I’ll be the smart aleck and reply: geo

(Still disliking the cutesy abbreviation “caching” for “geocaching” but realizing I am all alone in this.)

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I have a 23-yr-old Eureka Timberline and it is still our primary tent. Unless you feel your family absolutely MUST all be together in one tent, you may want to consider two smaller tents instead of one huge Taj-ma-tent. Smaller tents are easier to set up and tend to be more water- and wind-resistant because you don’t have as much square footage exposed to wind and blowing rain.

As others have suggested, rain on the ground can be more of a problem for tent campers than rain on the roof. That’s why it’s usually best to set your tent up on the pad provided for the campsite because the park has usually selected a site for the pad that is not in a rain gully and has prepared the pad by mixing sand in with the soil so rain water drains away quickly. Whatever tent you buy, here’s a tip I have used for years. (Originally posted in these forums back in 2005)

Buy a 4 mil roll of plastic, cut a sheet the size of your tent floor plus an extra 6 to 9 inches on each side, and put the plastic INSIDE your tent, not underneath. Yes, it may tend to slide around a bit, but once you get the hang of it it’s totally worth it because it puts a moisture barrier between your pad and sleeping bag and whatever wetness might ooze in, whether from rain runoff or from condensation.

Also, here’s a helpful site about all things related to family camping:
http://home.gwi.net/~spectrum/camping.html

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@accordiongal wrote:

I will be staying in the small cozy, intimant tent, along with the dog. Somebody has to keep me warm at night!

Reminds me of one of my favorite rock/pop groups from the 70s — Three Dog Night. Imagine how cold a night that must be.

I remember how cold it was at the first WGA campout at Gov. Dodge. Some of us in tents had catalytic heaters, which were a relatively new item back then. Once others at the group camp saw them, several of them made a run to the nearby Farm & Fleet store in Dodgeville to pick one up.

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I knew we would have some experienced health care types speak up. Thanks for your input. Even if we don’t look into obtaining an AED, the WGA might still look into sponsoring CPR/AED training. True, it’s already available to most of us at one time or another, but WGA sponsorship would encourage more members of our organization to consider getting training and might help mitigate the cost for some.

So after some discussion here, including input from a few health care professionals (thanks!), I am reposting my most previous post and making this an official suggestion to the WGA board. My concern about this stems from the fact that at each WGA event I see many people hiking up and down hills who are evidently not accustomed to strenuous exercise. Combine this with the fact that we gather a lot more geocachers together in one place than normally happens during non-event geocaching, and you have an increased risk for health emergencies. I don’t want the WGA to be in a situation where we only “wish” we were better prepared.

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