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What about if the cache is frozen solid in the hiding place? We have come across this a few times while winter caching and have generally not claimed while other winter cachers tell us they do claim them and simply state it was frozen in place. Should the find be credited or deleted? It would help us to know for future reference. I’m sure many have this question.
Lander and Lancelot will take the North Pittsfield caches over. We just did it last week.
Like Cheezehead, we make trips to the dollar store to put out quality caches, and we always get compliments from those who come to Camelot to find them. Some of us want to make the finds a little more rewarding. However, as was mentioned earlier, the rule is supposed to be trade up or trade even. After filling one of the caches with Canadian souveniers – mugs, windchimes, keychains, hand warmers, etc., we came back two months later to find not much other than broken 10 cent toys. Will that stop us from doing what we do? No. I guess we hope that people will eventually understand and elevate their trading practices.
Micros – They were created to be put in urban areas – like Toronto and Chicago – where it is difficult to place full sized ammo cans. We don’t mind finding them in urban settings, or as waypoints. We do, however, really hate seeing a forest or a lovely grove of trees WASTED on a micro. Also, it tends to tick us off to spend several hours to solve a puzzle only to be rewarded with a ‘micro in the pine tree.’ As was said before – if a puzzle solve, or a long walk to the cache is involved, make it worth it for the cacher. The slogan says “We use billion dollar satellites to find ‘tupperware’ hidden in the woods.” Tupperware has swag in it. When we tell people about caching and try to get them interested in the game, the description always includes finding a box of ‘treasure’.
Also, while we know that many caching families are out there with little kids – and after all we have 12 kids – not all cacher have young’uns in tow and it’s nice to find a bit of swag other than toys on occasion.
Density is not your culprit here. It is simply that you aren’t from Bonduel.
The float “Mammories of Ace” was a pun – Memories of Ace. For over 40 years Lance’s father, Ace, did the ‘humor’ float in the parade every year. He passed away this February and so the family did a tribute float, in his memory. We had on it bits of 7 of his most famous floats from years gone by. Photos of the Watergate float actually made its way into newspapers all over the state years ago – that is the one Lance and his brother did. I was commemorating the mock weddings that he and his friends would dress up and perform for people’s anniversaries.
A few times I was batting away tears as the crowd recognized the various segments and cheered and clapped in remembrance of Dad. He was a great man. It was a privilege to know him and to be a part of his family.
Both Lander & Lancelot were on the float, Lander was the bride, and my brother and I were the Watergate politicians. Glad you caught the parade, did we get you wet?
Yes, home for good. Putting in the paperwork to stay here for the rest of my life. Now I can’t go back to Canada to even visit for the next few years until they give me the go ahead flag. The Canadian kids will have to come here to visit.
Camelot rejoices.
I’m surprised that no one has pointed out that you can click a button on your profile settings on GC.com asking it to send you all new caches within a specified radius straight to your email as soon as they are published. That is how the FTF hounds get them.
I don’t have a problem with the read my mind puzzles being out there, but if you get upset that so few have found it, then you need to be realistic as to why that is. If making it difficult was your intent in putting it out, then you can’t be dejected when so few logs appear. Harder puzzles will get fewer finds. Simple as that. Does that mean it needs to be archived? Maybe or maybe not. Only the owner can decide whether he wants to put out something everyone visits, or a challenge that only few will. What makes you happier as the hider?
I would like to amend an earlier statement. I don’t necessarily consider that it’s Marc who’s on crack when he created the puzzle – it could just as easily be me because I’m clueless when I stare at it. No offence intended. I think Deejay stated it rather nicely. It’s the “in your head” puzzles I’m referring to.
The Lander half of this team says: Gotta run has made two valid points in his posts here, and is substantiated in one of them by sls. Those points worthy to consider when deciding whether or not to archive are:
1. Real estate. Gotta run has mentioned this point twice. Is the unvisited cache in a busy park in the middle of town that would be getting a lot of visits if indeed it were changed to a traditional cache in the area instead? Is it placed smack in the middle of a park that might actually be able to house 2 or 3 separate caches, but they can’t be placed because of proximity to that unvisited fellow in the middle.
2. Level of difficulty. I agree with SlS. We see way too many logs out there that simply say, Quck grab for me – and there are some cachers out there who will say that even if it took them two hours to find it, just to sound like they’re smarter than the last 29 logs that all said, WP1 was a clever hide and it really took us awhile to figure it out. A longer cache log is always more fun to read and you smile and you laugh when you read it and feel good about the time you put in to set it up and place it. These logs usually come with a more difficult hide/puzzle.
I don’t believe you can go by numbers of finds alone when deciding to archive or not. If you have a put out a puzzle that is going to take someone two years to solve, then it’s not going to get as many finds as one that asks to do a bit of research on historic buildings in the area. Let’s face it, we have a nucleus of math teachers in the Fox Valley/Green Bay area who are quite happy putting out caches that only other math teachers can solve. That certainly limits the number of people you’re going to get logging the cache. And not intending to be disrespectful, but Marc, you have some puzzles out there that I stare at and wonder if you were on crack at the time because I haven’t got the foggiest notion what it is you want me to do and with no hint, I’m completely baffled. A few others seem to be able to get inside your head and solve it, which makes me keep it on my list, hoping that one day a light bulb may flicker to life for me. I don’t want to lose the challenge.
While I’ve been stuck in Canada these past 3 months, Lance and I have spent our time working on the puzzles so that when I get back there, we can go out and grab them all. Some of those are on the list you posted at the beginning of this thread, so I hope you don’t put them to bed. We only cache when we’re together, so for us, being able to spend this time together on the phone working on the puzzles has been our way of playing the game.
Lance’s two cents:
He thinks that possibly if a puzzle has a high difficulty rating that prevents it from being easily solved and it’s on prime real estate – (not in someone’s back 40, 20 miles away from civilization) that maybe the distance rule should become more flexible so traditional caches can also be placed in that same park.I can do you better than that. I took my Meridian out for a day of caching in Ontario Canada on a beautiful, clear day – not a cloud in the sky. It kept telling me that the caches I was hunting for were about 600 miles away. It still insisted I was in Wisconsin. I finally gave up and went home. A week later I tried again, and it figured out I was in Ontario. Darn good thing “I” knew where I was and wasn’t relying on the gizzie to save me.
Lander nudges Lancelot “Hon, we need to stock up on bribery gifts for the reviewers. Why didn’t we think of that before?”
I’d like to see you out in the moonlight
I’d like to kiss you way back in the sticks
I’d like to walk you through a field of wildflowers
And I’d like to check you for ticks.—-Brad Paisley
Yes, Lancelot and I sing this song and giggle. Checking each other for ticks is a favourite romantic pastime in this household. Thankfully we find very few, but the hunt is so worth it.
Gee, when I first read the title, I thought you were setting up a dummy cache that people could use to log all their temp finds from various events. Looking at the cache listing and further posts I see that is not the case. Ah, well.
LOLThanks for the link. I guess I didn’t know it was an actual registered cache. Just thought it was an ‘out there’ challenge. This makes it even more fun. So, I read everything through, used the utility and uploaded my gpx file to it to find out how we’re doing thus far. Was pleased to see we have 8 pages completed, but not sure why it said those stats belong to username Lone Gunman instead of L & L. Very odd indeed.
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