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Sorry you’re feeling the effects Bill. Hope your recovery goes at least a bit smoother from here on out. I would agree that the exposure to sunlight deal has to be one of the more inconvenient things about your symptoms. Sending good thoughts your way, my man.

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Very nice work. I can remember going to Door County and following you guys on some caches that you had done recently before us. We also did a couple of your caches on the way home and they were GREAT. Keep having fun!

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1st, congratulations!

2nd, Bill, I know the Bill of Rights gives us the right to bare arms…but that’s a little ridiculous. HA bare arms

I HAD to break that one out because of the heck you gave tom k. on his Caribbean milestone.

Congrats you too! Hope to see you again soon.

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Nice work! My only question would be: Where are you going to get a helicopter?

Congratulations

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Quite an accomplishment. Congratulations.

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Congrats on 50 states. Alaska is truly one of the fun ones too! Each time I’ve been there (before and after geocaching) I’ve found something new to explore, or eat, or do.

On second thought, I bet it’s like that with all 50 states…yes even Illinois.

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Congratultions, and no surcharges for MGT! I know I had fun with that cache as well, even if it wasn’t a milestone. Keep having fun.

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Congratulations! Jeees, all these Lakeland area milestones in such a short time. Quite a tribute to all the area finders AND hiders. Keep having fun.

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Congratulations! We were up in that area a couple weeks ago and it is a really nice spot to cache. Keep on having fun!

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Nice job. Not everyone has the mind power and the resolve to work through puzzles like that. Congrats on #1200

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When I took my nuvi to Anchorage, AK, it told me to turn right onto Minnesota Doctor (Minnesota Dr.) Drive=Doctor

Silly nuvi

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@Mister Greenthumb wrote:

I would get permission from your mother first. Sounds like a pretty stupid place for a cache. Sorry to sound negative, just my opinion.

Geeez MGT. 😆 I thought this was the WGA forum, not the Groundspeak forums…tough crowd.

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@JimandLinda wrote:

I farmed in partnership with my father for 20 years along the Rock River. We quit pasturing our cattle because of upstream problems that took years to fix.

If I had a radioactive cache that was making cachers sick and die, would you send me a polite e-mail, to give me a chance to “fix” it? Or would you contact the authorities before I fled the country?!

Comparing manure run-off to a cache problem is like comparing apples to giraffes.

Zuma happened to be a cacher that saw the problem. It could have been a nun or a grade school kid. I applaud him for asking for input before confronting a farmer that might be 3-4 weeks behind in his farm work, due to this long winter and wet spring. NONE of us is qualified to approach the landowner on a federal violation of stream contamination!

But if zuma would like to send the ‘devils advocate’ the address of the farmer, feel free to drive from Kenosha to wherever and tell the farmer to fix his crappy problem.

Let me know when your going. I’ll bring my lawn chair and a bag of popcorn, to watch the fireworks!

No need to be mean about it. I agree that it is a problem. I agree that the proper people in the proper places should be contacted. I grew up on a dairy farm, and I worked for the local Farm Service Agency during the summers in college dealing (see: reporting) with these issues…I’m not completely misinformed and I’m also not against you.

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Devil’s advocate here:

Even though you might not get an immediate, positive response from the landowner, I would still make an attempt to contact them if I had intentions of calling a government official.

I pose this question to anyone here: If you had a cache that was making an ecological impact that you weren’t aware of, would you want a muggle or even another cacher to go immediately to a reviewer or Groundspeak to get the cache moved or archived?

I know I wouldn’t. I don’t like people immediately jumping over my head. If there’s a problem with something I’m doing I’d usually like to know about it before someone goes and tells on me.

If the land owner doesn’t acknowledge the problem or seems indifferent when you talk to him, call the DNR or FSA. Heck, maybe he does know about it and just doesn’t care or hopes no one notices. At least if you contact him you gave the guy the chance to fix it himself.

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Whenever polish cutie and I plan a trip I do pretty much the same as what you’ve described:

1. Make a list of MUST caches.
2. Sprinkle in a few MIGHT caches.
3. Plan to have too much time for the MUST caches
4. Hope for the best on the MIGHT caches.

A must is a must. I say estimate and budget a bit more than you think you will need for those caches. Then, if you find yourself with more time or ahead of schedule…then you can do the mights.

Don’t know if this helps, but it’s what we’ve done in the past. Have fun, sounds like a great trip.

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