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CONGRATS again on a new milestone and fine cache choice! Look forward to your overdue visit to the Fox Valley and a gold mine of caches over here. There are some tasty five terrain ones here for you as well!
I echo the congrats to peach. Good meeting you finally at the Green Bay Names and Faces after several near misses on the trail! Good job on the hides as well!
I’m for allowing the return visit reports in the Lonely Cache Game for the difference in points only. That is how Team Deejay originally explained how the scoring would work to me when I was hesitant to log and report a DNF if I felt I could do better with less snow or better preparation for obstacles encountered otherwise. I think DNFs and the log comments for them are useful for anyone else attempting to find some of the lonely caches, and that is good for all cachers who may help find or otherwise salvage a worthwhile hide that has become “lonely” for whatever reason.
I am more concerned about other kinds of return visits like confirms of caches found by a that cacher or another, or visited by the owner. Only one confirm should be allowed, and no others after a find, a confirm by someone else, a replacement (which some have also counted as a find), or an owner visit, whether logged as maintenance or otherwise. Even though the rules do allow for a confirm after a subsequent DNF, that may give undue credence to the search that resulted in a DNF. I sure don’t find all the caches that I seek that are really there, and wonder if more than one consecutive DNF would be a better way to justify that kind of reporting.
As far as the Sagasu rule, I think travel beyond the 60 mile range will get pretty costly just to play a game, and there will be other monthly winners soon, maybe even yet for February. For now, Sagasu’s family and friends will be happy to hear that while the days ending with Y rule seems a little steep, that any day not starting with an F or T will be given a voluntary moratorium on seeking (not reporting) lonely caches.
I’ve voted for the 500 or so limit to keep the game manageable, as long as truly “lonely” caches that haven’t been found for many months, sometimes over a year, are not excluded from the list. Those are the ones that need help the most, either in the form of confirming, replacing or adopting.
As far as some of the rules and issues pertaining to multiple logs and the so-called padding, I see the game played differently by players. One player replaces a cache, logs it, and submits a report as a find. Others call it a DNF, because they didn’t find it, but they replaced it. I chose the latter route to avoid the appearance of the so-called padding, but when I went back to log the cache as a find, without submitting any report at all for points, it appeared to some, at least, that there was some padding going on. I subsequently deleted the find, and sacrificed a find count to avoid even the appearance of padding, as I don’t really need any “extra” points. At the same time, I am going to be more judicious about replacing a cache in similar circumstances, as I would really rather just make the find, as long as the owner or someone salvages the cache, if it’s worth saving.
I really don’t normally spend a lot of time in the forums due to a heavy enough work and family schedule that makes me value my caching time – all year ’round, so I don’t get the opportunity to dabble in these political debates very often. Whatever simplifies this great idea for salvaging good caches best will work for me, as long as the original idea of clarifying their status for many who have had frustrations visiting something that’s no longer there, and giving such caches suitable attention or help can take place, particularly for the “loneliest” caches that have disappointed the most, or have had to be bypassed due to long strings of DNF posts, without owner response.
As those who know me have found, I am as serious about maintaining my own caches, and leaving others’ caches well hidden, with decent swag, and in good shape, as I am about having fun and seeing new places going out finding them. It’s disappointing when anyone doesn’t care enough about a cache they placed, supposedly for a good reason, like bringing people to a great place, or illuminating their lives with exposure to an historic or otherwise interesting spot, doesn’t take the time to keep that cache in good condition. At that point, it’s time to archive it so someone else can use the spot, or adopt it out so somebody will take good care of it. As an “unregulated” sport, geocaching needs the contributions of all who participate to keep caches in great shape for the fun of those who play.
As far as the gnarly puzzle cache category, my friend Shane, sign me up for the feathers contribution; there will be enough of them without adding more!
Warm Congrats, Ralph! Except for the lack of challenge, it sounds like a great milestone out on an interesting road trip and an FTF to boot. Wow, 6000! How many FTFs NOW?!!
Wow! is right. Congrats! There are still a few left….
I echo the congrats and enjoyed the cache very much. Of course I had Marc watching over my shoulder the day I did it so that upped the ante. Great job!
Congrats Justin. Great start to the year after a big push last year! Look forward to seeing you again!
12/21/2007 at 11:29 pm in reply to: Bandits explode 3,000 with the force of a 1,000 megaton bomb #1882088What a year for you, Dennis and Lisa! CONGRATULATIONS! Great choice of a cache – that one is on my long distance radar. Once again, well done!
Very impressive! Congratulations on the accomplishment. Who is your travel agent?!
Discovered a TB in Seton’s St. M-M Travel Bug Retreat in Waupaca this past week (Bärchen, TBHPXJ) that went to North Cape in Norway to fulfill its mission and wants to return to Munich. Don’t know how it went from Norway to Wisconsin instead of back to Germany, but that one is still in the Waupaca cache waiting for a helping hand if anyone can get to it.
I agree! Congrats again, Marc! Let’s have another cemetery tour loop!!
Congrats Ralph on FTF #500! What’s a little missed sleep over breaking the trail for an FTF?! Been there and sleep better AFTERWARDS! Well done!
Congrats on #1900, Justin! Great pace on those last hundred, too! Look forward to seeing your 2K milestone and hope to get together again on the home stretch to that one. Again, congrats, and well done!
Congratulations again Gwyn and Dick! Got a few more over this way for your next thousand! Looks like you will be needing them, as your last hundred took no time at all! Well done! Look forward to seeing you again.
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