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@tyedyeskyguy wrote:
My observation is that if something bothers you about a certain cache, then avoid it, don’t steal it. And, if someone was bothered by this cache for any reason, whether it was because it was structural, or they were affraid to ask for help, or whatever the case may be, They could have contacted me to discuss it, and, once again, not stolen the cache. Again, I’m still not completely certain the cache was stolen by a cacher.
There were no tools required to remove this bolt, unless a previous cacher had tightened it with a wrench and I had not know about it. Thing is, the last person to touch it (CacherClan0 is a close personal friend beyond the caching world. I’m certain he didn’t tighten it.
You didn’t say if it was a premium cache or not. I think this is important because I believe that geocaching began welcoming too many people into the fold. I don’t know it, but I’d suspect and hope that premium caches are more secure than those opened to anyone. There are those of us who preferred the more covert days before we tried to please everybody and ask “Captain may I?”. The less that knew about a cache, the better. At first, the publicity and media exposure was neat. Now, it seems to be a curse, at least to me, and can be partly responsible why some good caches end up MIA.
Many don’t know me but you can check my profile and see that I’ve been around. I used to have it bad. Very, very bad. I made it to the second highest find count in the state and worked hard to keep it in the top ten. I burned up a lot of gasoline doing caches all weekend and many in the evening. I’ve seen new caches posted in the evening and ran out in the dark and rain to be the first to find.
Trying to keep a job and maintain a home finally made me realize that I was never going to keep up with people without such responsibilities and I’m just making a general statement. We all have our free time and choose how to spend it. More power to them.
When I got my dog, Kanook, he became my caching partner and we spent a lot of time in the woods which is my favorite place to cache. As more caches were in places where Kanook was not welcomed or safe, I decided he and my time with him was more important than running up some numbers which never made me richer but arguably poorer.
To each their own. That’s my story. Welcome to another stage of being a geocacher.
I’ve done my share of very well hidden caches. I have a question and an observation. Was the cache a premium member only? Just wondering about that.
My observation is that one of your replies to the gang was that you are willing to give hints to anyone who asks. Perhaps somebody is resentful that some get what they may see as an advantage over someone working with what is given? From your description it does sound like the difficulty should have been a bit higher, which could have hacked somebody’s self-esteem.
Another thought is that I’ve enjoyed caching with a group from time to time, but when someone finds the cache and the whole group benefits by logging the find, it always seemed to water down the satisfaction to me. Maybe something like that has someone disturbed.
I also have a little trouble with a cache being a structural piece of an object where an observer could claim that vandalism is being done. However it does remind me of a few other caches that I enjoyed where a missing bolt was replaced by a cache. However, tools were not needed to retrieve. Was yours too tight for some fingers to undo?
I’m not justifying stealing a cache, just mentioning some thoughts that might profile the criminal mind.
As a consensus, the founders of WGA and the charter members had the vision to see that there would be issues between government and geocaching. I don’t think anyone of them liked the notion of seeking permission to enjoy our hobby, but reality is our guide.
Without getting into whether or not geocaching has evolved into what I or anyone else wishes it would have, I’m here to voice my support and appreciation for the work to get this agreement done. It is a whole lot better than what we originally expected to get from the DNR!
Unfortunately one could do a lot of work in creating a cache only to have it shot down. It remains to be seen if the DNR handles the agreement fairly.
Steve Bukosky
former WGA board memberI believe that it says photos may be spoilers. But having said that, no, I don’t think pictures of the cache location or container are in the best spirit of things.
Sorry that I didn’t get back to you sooner Lonesumdove. No, a dog wasn’t required.
Yeah Brian, that’s a pile file. The good news is if you missed the event, there is plenty more where it came from. There might be something about it on TV 6 tonight. Check out my hat.
Steve Bukosky
WaukeshaI’ve been fighting with this problem on my SE Wisconsin PQ’s too. A search of the GC.com software forum indicated it was bad HTML on someone’s web page. I’ve spent A LOT of time trying to see where the problem is until finding the reason today. Lets get this bomb defused!!!!!
Steve Bukosky
WaukeshaWhen I heard geocaching, I whipped out the cell phone and was waiting for the number. Never got it. Though, the two that did get to talk did nicely enough. Dan’s a pretty nice guy, being a pilot and all that too. Jerry is good but prone to rash impressions.
But think about it from someone not into geocaching. It is easy to see how it could look like some role playing game. In the beginnings of it, it was a mix of nature hikes and history lessons. Now that many of the trails have been hiked and many history lessons learned, there is more of an easter egg hunt aspect to it. As with many pastimes, If I have to explain it, you won’t understand it.
Steve Bukosky
Waukesha[This message has been edited by sbukosky (edited 08-11-2005).]
In years past I’ve stated that a cache should be hidden that it can be found by a cacher but not by a casual passer by. A useful hint should be given to enable the cacher to find it.
Of several reasons, perhaps the best is to minimize environmental damage and lessen land manager’s wrath.
Steve Bukosky
WaukeshaReminds me of the sand roads around Neilsville. The Gold Wing doesn’t get along good with them!
Steve Bukosky
Waukeshaquote:
Originally posted by kbraband:
First of all, I like Jeremy Irish. I think he has the best interests of geocaching at heart.
To set the record straight, I don’t dislike him nor do I not appreciate what he has provided to geocaching as a whole. What I dislike is solitary control of a worldwide activity!! As a paid member of geocaching.com since it was first offered, I have no input (such as a vote)to guide geocaching or the website. Post a comment on geocaching and a dozen trolls without a life descend upon you!
Of course Jeremy has the best interests of geocaching in mind. You do. I do. Everyone with an opinion does. But that doesn’t make a minority opinion the best thing to do. Too often, he that owns the gold, controls.
As a former board member, I stressed the need to allow free discussion without repercussions. This is the first time I’ve seen a thread challenging a ruling by Jeremy Irish. I think it is beautiful! Not everyone is in agreement but dang, it sure is nice to see the discussion!!!
Steve Bukosky
WaukeshaWell! I’m happy to see that being in lockstep with Jeremey is being challenged by more than myself. Welcome aboard people! Geocaching is bigger than geocaching.com and WGA IS geocaching in Wisconsin!
For the topic, Yes we should continue to log each and every temporary cache of a recognized event. It is what most people enjoy.
Steve Bukosky
WaukeshaWell, with all that being said, I’d say the DNR and Geocaching go together like vinegar and oil. You have to keep shaking things up so they ”get together”.
Steve Bukosky
WaukeshaCoincidently, the club meeting is the same day as the picnic and is in Greenbush at the Methodist Church at 3PM. We can’t handle a large crowd but if you’re interested, stop by. There is a potluck dinner after the meeting so bring your leftovers.
We have a lot in common. The GPAA is big into protecting public land acess rights. This and the love of being outdoors is what we have in common.
Steve Bukosky
WaukeshaIf you have cable or sattelite TV that gets The Outdoor Channel, there are several prospecting shows on. On one recent show the host mentioned Geode-caching. I think it was an attempt at humor but the episode was about uncovering geodes, which are hollow crystal rocks. These were in Arizona.
We have an outing on property that a member owns near Rhinelander this weekend. Besides panning for gold and such, there will be metal detecting events kind of like the temporary caches at our events. Such outings are held frequently and some chapters travel to areas where the prospects are better, such as the Carolinas or to the western deserts. Did you know that there are areas where you can still “stake a claim” for the gold rights on public property? Check out http://www.goldprospectors.org
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