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For new adoptees, please include an address in your adoption requests so I can send you hard copy of these puzzles. Nothing worse than knowing the solve, but not how to get it.
I had my suspicions that there was something more behind that many of mine disappearing all around the same time. Might have been nice to let me know sooner, lots of replacement caches purchased and some already placed.
Whoever you are, thanks at least for coming out of the woodwork and letting me know it wasn’t muggles or a malicious cacher at work. That’s some consolation and it means I can put half the heaping pile of needs maintenance sheets in the recycle bin.
BTW, you can skip the Great Story series, I already replaced all of those.
It seems like you can boil down all of these threads that have to do with the question of fair play to one overarching principle, which is to respect the wishes of the cache owner, GC owner or TB owner.
But what do you do when you know a certain cache owner makes a serious effort to keep caches stocked with good trade and trackables, while the cache itself contains a number of TB that haven’t moved in months?
In that case I default to the TB owner, as most respondents in this thread do. Sure, a bunch of icons looks great for the cache and you can tell the CO cares, but in the end the TB and GC missions take precedent, don’t they?
I try to trade even, but if I see a TB or a GC that is getting stale, you can bet I will move it along, despite what any CO might feel is an uneven trade.
When it comes to general swag, it’s not difficult to improve the quality of most caches since most of the residual swag ends up being worse than what you can find on Goodwill’s discount shelf. I always try to trade up if I trade at all, which isn’t too often.
@Team Deejay wrote:
The main reason for hiding a cache should be for people to enjoy finding it, including solving the puzzle. Any other reason will lead to caches which are only found to “clear an area” or just ignored. Why go through all that trouble just to frustrate people? Now that is not to say that a puzzle should not be challenging or difficult. The key is for to make it enjoyable as well, so that people will feel that the time obtaining the solution was well spent.
Thank you for putting things in perspective. I agree with about 99% of what you distilled here as puzzle categories and desire to solve. I’d like to think that most s|s solvers would put most of mine in the 55%, 90% and 99% categories, with all but a handful falling in the 25% and 2% camp.
The only thing I would add is an addendum to the last comment. Many of the cachers I have come to know who want to “clear an area” never take the time to determine what class of puzzle they are even looking at. They all go into one pot and when the opportunity arises to clear them out, away they go, robbing themselves of the better part of the experience.
As I’ve said before, but bears repeating, I never want to create puzzles just to frustrate people, what would be the point of that?
@-cheeto- wrote:
@CodeJunkie wrote:
I just happened to do a quick search online and noticed that custom bumper stickers (full color & 3″x10″) can be purchased in bulk for 560 / 1000 or less than $0.60 each. At this size you could have multiple smaller sizes with on larger one.
Just throwing out ideas and leveraging on the bumper sticker idea. I’ve never purchased these, but assume that a bumper sticker would be “weather friendly” and it included full color at no additional charge.
This idea was discussed in the board meeting along with several others.
One thing we learned is that company’s that print stickers will likely not take a job if you are planning to “cut up” the sticker into multiple stickers. They know this by the design you submit. They earn revenue on quantity printed. It is generally frowned upon in that industry to print 2 stickers on one sticker. This is typically why stickers aren’t as cheap as you think they “should be”.
In this economy, I’m quite sure if you approached a printing company with a 2 or 3 up design and explained to them that the 3 parts were meant for an individual cache and therefor necessary, they wouldn’t turn you away. Just design it in such a way that it looks like a concert ticket or hunting liscense that has a number of integral, but separable, parts.
I think the case could be made that a sticker design like that could and would be used for multi caches. Now, if some cachers decide to use them for different caches, that’s their perogative.
At times caches get missed when the list is assembled. Also, new rescues have to be added to the LCG list as they come out and that can take time for the man of many hats to catch up to.
@gotta run wrote:
@seldom|seen wrote:
@gotta run wrote:
I’ll put gas in the Cessna, Alex… 😀
You know I can’t resist that invitation. Let me know when you want to get high together, and I’ll be there…
Are you bringing the leaflets?
Sure, I’ve seen some good ones floating around on area campuses this past week. Could probably get my hands on a few of those…
“Those Damned Blue-Collar Tweekers”
I’ve seen them out at Soco
They’re pounding sixteen penny nails
The truckers on the interstate
Have been known to ride the rails
The sweat is beating on the brow
Can’t keep these fellas down
‘Cause those damned blue-collared tweekers
Are runnin’ this here townI knew a man who hung drywall
He hung it mighty quick
A trip or two to the blue room
Would help him do the trick
His foreman would pat him on the back
Whenever he would come around
‘Cause these dammed blue-collar tweekers
Are beloved in this here townNow the union boys are there
To protect us from all the corporate type
While curious George’s drug patrol
Is out here hunting snipe
Now they try to tell me different
But you know I ain’t no clown
‘Cause those damned blue-collar tweekers
Are the backbone of this townNow the flame that burns twice as bright
Burns only half as long
My eyes are growing weary
As I finalize this song
So sit back and have a cup o’ joe
And watch the wheels go round
‘Cause those damned blue-collar tweekers
Have always run this town@JimandLinda wrote:
I see some sniping coming… 😯
I’d welcome the sniping, but I’ve been informed that some contenders are going to refrain from it to stay above the fray, a little like my self-imposed rule to refrain from DNF logs and Revisits (with notable exceptions).
Now, if I were them, I’d try to orchestrate a tie like I have in the past, but that’s me and I play in my own unique way. Whoever get’s it, gratitude goes to this year’s leader for paving the way and setting the bar.
@gotta run wrote:
I’ll put gas in the Cessna, Alex… 😀
You know I can’t resist that invitation. Let me know when you want to get high together, and I’ll be there…
Sounds like a great choice for a milestone! I too have been eyeing that one up, but every time I look at the map and then look as the distance scale… well let’s just say I’m not that enthusiastic!
But this is huffinpuffin we’re talking about! Loquacious? Yes, but not generally garrulous although some superfluous sophistry does occasionally slip through to keep seekers second-guessing.
When this convivial couple came to town they made an immediate and immutable impression on me, providing insightful social commentary on the worth of their wistful wasting of time, which we all have to square at some point. Readers of any HP2 posts know just how affluent the content and effluent the commentary can be on even the simplest of searches.
Never ostentatious, their overtly verbose diatribes give much more back to the community of found-it followers than empty emoticons. It’s been a personal pleasure laboring through their lucid and yes, even lugubrious logs but I so look forward to perusing their pending posts on my puzzles as they continue to make their valley presence known to more and more cache places who, I know, will come to appreciate them as much as I do!
Hope my lead holds for February cause this cycle’s gonna be a beeawtch!
Seriously, I do hope someone “over there” gets into the game this cycle, there’s enough traditionals to fire up a number close to the high water mark set in Jan.
Zuma, get out there and score a few for the Gipper!
Well, that’s the crux of the situation isn’t it, trying to fathom whether the 2nd or 3rd line of the verse applies… and when.
It’s just the time of year, in part, which pushes these heated threads beyond civil discourse. Seems like topics and responses always get a little wild in late winter as we are all anxiously watching the snow melt.
For my part, I too have suffered from a little foot-in-mouth, but am on the mend. Whatever the offenses hurled from this glass house, just know that my goal is not to make the sport less enjoyable for anyone. I want cachers to get something lasting out of hunting s|s puzzles and simply feel that that “something” is mostly missed when you don’t make at least a partial effort to solve them. Perhaps some of you see it as a bone-headed, lop-sided view of geocaching from a bone-headed lop-sided cacher (just look at my numbers), but at least I have the courage and conviction to admit it and defend my viewpoint, recognizing the inherent values of puzzles themselves and doing my best to espouse them here.
What I will not do is try to convince anyone that they should simply ignore CO wishes and just log those pesky puzzle to get them off your radar because nobody cares and it is just a game. That’s akin to saying “cheat at any card game or pool or darts or scrabble or whatever, because it’s just a game”.
Would you teach your children that?
Trying for the win this month so I can’t stop thinking about it for the rest of the year, but I will be happy with whatever place I come in. It was a good cycle and despite my constraints (yes, Mike, I have a job) I did manage to get out on a few detours while doing other justified business and family related trips. Thanks to everyone who plays to keep the quality of Wisconsin caches in good standing.
I am looking forward to playing the rest of this year when opportunities present, heck I may even be up for a few all-nighters this summer, cause I know for sure I’ll be in the Northwoods fishin at some point…
HuffinPuffin2 set the bar supper-high this year and I have a feeling that record will probably stand for some time. An early congrats if the slim margin I have now gets overtaken by this gregarious and generous caching couple – it’s nice to have you in the game and all I have to say is, Pace Yourself!
Hmmm, the 2 rescues listed in the state don’t seem to be in need of rescue, IMHO. I could list half of my TB’s if the criteria is simply no movement since October or November.
I do hope the those TB’s and GC’s that really need rescue make it to this site.
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