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@bartrod wrote:
Will cache on the way to and back from my home town & hunting w/brother…enjoy bow hunting more than the gun hunt though. There are indeed a lot crazies out there on opening weekend.
Had a great caching experience during hunting season last year…posted on log for GCKJ6W Lookout Above II | Last One Standing
😀 😀Speaking of hunting antics, I had to go back and read your log, which made me go back and re-read the cache description. Wonder if I’ll be up there this year to partake in the annual family antics? I love to walk around in the woods but haven’t shot anything in years. So now, I’m mostly there for flushing support. I can’t stand sitting around, so you’ll never see me in a stand or posted at the end of a trail, I will always be traipsing through the woods and more ofter than not, will be side-tracked by some late fall fungus when I will be startled and look up to see the 12-pointer trotting away from me. It’s happened more than once.
These days, I’d much rather lend my support after the season when my brother, the real Deer Hunter, has a couple hanging ( which he always does) and needs help butchering. We will be making some serious sausage this year, from the old family recipe, and that’s really the reward for me. Give me a young healthy 4-pointer or doe any day of the week, much better meat than some old sinewy mega-point buck.
You will never see anything mounted in my house; whitetail, walleye wabbit or otherwise, cause for me, deer-hunting is a lot like caching… it’s not about the Points!
I like to throw on my deerskin trench coat, put on my novelty Rudolph antlers and then crawl around on public hunting grounds, bleating like a deer just to mess with the tongue-waggin, hormone driven blitherings in the woods. And by blitherings, I don’t mean the deer…
@seldom|seen wrote:
3889.5 and counting. This is the month, I suspect, that the top tier of the LCG pack sees tail feathers out front. In fact, I’d wager we’ll be seeing them by veteran’s day. Wager’s anyone?
Well, OK, maybe they’ve slowed a bit, but I sure wouldn’t be surprised if they got close to 5K by year’s end. Double or nothin?
@gotta run wrote:
@seldom|seen wrote:
@huffinpuffin2 wrote:
@gotta run wrote:
Revised Cache Appreciation Ratio formula
[# of hides + # of logs with more than two sentences – # of TFTC logs + (# of WGA forum posts/10) + # of FTP posts – # of posts containing a picture of the Burger King dude] / # of finds = CAR
Looks like someone near Mathatopia is developing a Puzzle Cache……… 😉
12/2095 = .006! Proof positive that this formulae does not work for all scenarios, although as a general rule, I agree. The HP2 crew writes, and I am not overstating this, THE BEST CACHE LOGS in the country, IMHO at least. If anyone can show me another cacher which exhibits their CAR with as consistently eloquent and entertaining logs as this pair, I’ll take you and them to dinner!
Just this morning I was privy to a new Found It log on Innervisions|Up the Rabbit Hole, that reminded me, again, where the true reward come from in this sport… you are right GR, it’s all about the CAR!
Dude, you didn’t read the whole formula! Chances are HP2 would score over a 1.0, unless they have a lot of BK King posts…
Ya know, this explains lots of things about the “math” in your field solve puzzles … 🙄
The “whole” formula is way too complicated for me, I’ll go for the simple, easy to understand, no guessing formulations every time just like I do when I make puzzles. Who needs all the guesswork anyway? 😉
@The Happy Hodag wrote:
@2_Stand wrote:
It’s not just geocachers, and it’s not just here. I just read about this incident in my Lions magazine: http://www.wlfi.com/dpp/news/local/Suspicious-package-found-in-Rossville
There is a certain sense of contagious fear and paranoia that leads some people to create large snowballs where there is no snow.
Seriously? 🙄
Where does the line of security end and the path to lunacy begin. Seriously is right, did they actually need ALL of these depts to respond to a small suspicious device? Wouldn’t two or three individuals from the bomb squad and a couple additional law enforcement personal to manage the scene be sufficient? I mean wholly crap people, what’s gonna happen when there’s a bone fide bomb scare with a REAL series of suspicious packages placed? The only thing missing was a call from the Governor to the ARNG!
…”The Clinton County Sheriffs, the Rossville Town Marshal, and the Indiana State Police Bomb Squad responded to the scene, along with Rossville Fire, Rossville EMS, NIPSCO Gas, Duke Energy, and the town of Rossville’s Street Department…”
Imagine, all of those public servants (and some private I see) responding in a matter of minutes to this psuedo-crisis, converging en masse to the psuedo-scene. Wonder how many news crews were there?
Now, picture very few to no public servants responding for many hours, days even, to the Katrina disaster. How many died as a result? And we respond this significantly to a minute suspicious device? Christ, even if it was a real bomb this response is overkill.
I know I’m part socialist, but this kinda lop-sided public good garbage news generation gets my conservative dander up! (that one’s for you GR).
@huffinpuffin2 wrote:
@gotta run wrote:
Revised Cache Appreciation Ratio formula
[# of hides + # of logs with more than two sentences – # of TFTC logs + (# of WGA forum posts/10) + # of FTP posts – # of posts containing a picture of the Burger King dude] / # of finds = CAR
Looks like someone near Mathatopia is developing a Puzzle Cache……… 😉
12/2095 = .006! Proof positive that this formulae does not work for all scenarios, although as a general rule, I agree. The HP2 crew writes, and I am not overstating this, THE BEST CACHE LOGS in the country, IMHO at least. If anyone can show me another cacher which exhibits their CAR with as consistently eloquent and entertaining logs as this pair, I’ll take you and them to dinner!
Just this morning I was privy to a new Found It log on Innervisions|Up the Rabbit Hole, that reminded me, again, where the true reward come from in this sport… you are right GR, it’s all about the CAR!
Did anyone ever correctly identify the root cause of the rash?
I think the committee needs to sit down and brainstorm a plan to inform and educate every municipality or county in the state. Police departments are privy to many forms of inter-departmental information sharing. I assume there is a clearinghouse for state wide issues that could be used to share information on the nature of the sport and types of containers that can be found.
If there are any officers following these threads, can you chime in and provide direction or send someone on the Education committee a PM with ideas about how to address this on a Statewide basis? Even if the committee gets everything ironed out with Ashwaubenon and Green Bay Police Depts, it doesn’t help when the Outagamie County PD explodes and ammo can a week later.
@bigguy-pmurk wrote:
The cops around here are completely without a clue. About 2 months ago, I was on an FTF run for a new cache out by the jail and BCMHC when I was detained by two cops. They stopped me for about a half an hour to lecture me on how I looked suspicious, and that I was only going to get one warning to stay away from that area, and how I should post a note on the geocaching website so people would know to stay away from that area. The one was from Allouez, and he mentioned how there was something like this that the police had blown up in a park about a year ago, and how people didn’t learn from that. Apparently it was the Super Troopers that had a tough time wrapping their gourds around this one.
I suspect this thread has run its course and can lie now until next year when an overly sensitive citizen – plagued by news of homegrown terrorism, child molesters assimilating into their community and illegal drug cartels operating in the northwoods with orders to shot on site – feels the needs to quell that tiny bit of suspicion rising in their stomach as a furtive figure does something slightly suspicious or out of the norm across the street. All of the above are real and present dangers, but not to 99.99% of the community.
Yet, that’s not the way it is presented by the media and as a result we are a fearful and suspicious people taught to react first and ask questions later. Fortunately, these incidences of intervention are few are far between… unfortunately, we don’t have any control over the magnitude or clarity of response by the departments entrusted with the safety of the public.
I’ve been questioned by law enforcement on many, many occasions. In almost all circumstances, the officer(s) knew of the sport or at least have the willingness to listen and give me the benefit of the doubt. Once in a while, though, you do run into one with an issue or an axe to grind. I sat handcuffed in a squad while a particularly brash officer read me the riot act as I tried to explain that the keyholder on the bus sign was a cache, and nothing more. I’m sure it was more a case of “I’m gonna leave a lasting impression on this guy” than anything, but he was threatening me with possession of burglary tools based on the needle nose pliers and phillips screwdriver I had on my person. Now, a younger me would have been all up in his face and suggesting he go ahead and arrest me, but an older and wiser me knew nothing of any merit would come of it and let the scenario play out as I knew it would.
The moral of the story is that no matter how well informed, prepared or educated a force (as mentioned in this thread, many are) there will always be a few that aren’t or want to make a point. We can’t know the motivations behind decisions to create spectacle from non-incident, but I am certain someone in the chain of command that day, or indeed on any of the occasions of detonation, knew what the container probably was and likely made it know if it wasn’t already widely recognized by many on the scene as a geocache. These are trained law enforcement personal who see everything in the line of duty and I would put money on these incidents being more about following protocol, demonstrating public safety and or testing expensive anti-terrorism equipment than they are about anyone mistaking a 35mm container for a threat. I only wish the media would do their job and say as much.
3889.5 and counting. This is the month, I suspect, that the top tier of the LCG pack sees tail feathers out front. In fact, I’d wager we’ll be seeing them by veteran’s day. Wager’s anyone?
@RSplash40 wrote:
Its the middle of the month and not a single entry from sagasu!
Where’s Dave??
There he is…
@geolivestrong wrote:
Same area as Urban Myth | My Blood e-Valentine (GC205QP) – Appleton, you will find Twelve Creepy Grottos??? (GC203PB). The name says it all…..
For Blood e-Valentine. Owner spoilers! You will not be looking for fire tacks, but phosphorescent paint which reacts differently to different light sources. Take a couple types of flashlight with you, shine within 4-8′ of the trail at stomach to chest height. Some seekers spend a lot of time trying to get started out there and never find the “spirits”. If you don’t pick up the trail right away, there is a cheat reflective twistie tied to a tree with a spirit. Have fun, and say hello to Kate for me, she’s had a lot of visitors of late…
@2nd time around wrote:
Just to let everyone know… The cache that ended up in the Petenwell damm was cache #GC153RQ Tributary/ Off The Hook out of Stevens Point. It looks like this cache made it through multible damms and it is in very good condition…Amazing…. When our friend found it, it was bone dry on the inside and floating. We have contacted the owner and will be getting their cache back to them as soon as possible.
I was just informed of this former cache of mine making the trip to the Petenwell. Amazing that some cans in the woods get wet because they are not closed properly (read “lid is not seated all the way”) and yet this cache can can make a floating journey of some 30 miles over a couple dams, intact dry and eager to move along to the next stop… Portage? That is off the hook!
All right, whose working on this one? I know one of you is putting a cache together, ALR optional, but suggested.
@Trekkin’ and Birdin’ wrote:
I’d really like to set this up as a WIG, but I think all these different issues are a way of telling me I’m in over my head.
I’m in the same boat. I think the potential is monumental but the support is non-existent. A great idea with no follow through. To make matters worse, I’m solely a Mac guy. Talk about hurdles…
But, with 3 WhereIgo concepts in the works with cords and pictures and history partially gathered, I’m not ready to give up either. Unfortunately, I came to the appreciation of these publishing difficulties a little too far down the road and am now halfway there. But then, I am still waiting to dig in until I at least have a PC to work with.
I so hope someone will step in at some point and create a far friendlier version for novice users. The only upside is that there aren’t a bunch of crappy, easily published, WhereIgos out there and the ones that are took some blood, sweat and tears to get published, making them worth there rare weight in gold.
Perhaps it is a good thing that it is as laborious as it is?
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