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I don’t think trackables are the responsibility of the CO. We didn’t place them there. If the owner of the trackable doesn’t keep track of their stuff and do the required maintence of their property not our problem. We already have enough to do checking a cache when someone can’t find it and posts a needs maintence log when the last two cachers found it. If I got a needs maintence for a trackable I might be really irritated.
We visited this cache when we did our run for 4000th cache. If you go, it is in a heavily populated stretch of land along Lake Mich. The road is narrow and winding and there is no where to park to see the house. There was a lot of traffic so even slowing down to get a good look is hard. We made two passes and got an unsatisfying look at it. I think the neighborhood does not welcome the traffic the house brings it. Would really like a better look at this house.
We have been having this conversation also. With many caches in the Wisc. Dells we get a lot of first time and casual cachers. While we are happy to see people engaged in an activity that doesn’t involve tourist traps, we also get a lot of maintenance issues. We were replacing one of our caches one day and a young man came running up loudly saying “did you find it”. When we informed him we owned the cache he was very excited to meet us and proudly showed us the phone app that got him to the cache. We explained we were having to replace it because someone had taken the cache and stealth was needed when caching. Don’t think it registered. We are also thinking that our caches need to be premium to stop the casual vacationer from causing us maintenance problems.
We are also thinking it is time for the sport to go back underground a bit and be a little more off the radar. While we have done a class at the library we don’t feel it did any thing other than give desperate parents something to occupy their preteenagers for an evening.
We have lost ammo cans in DNR land and are sure people are restocking their storage needs at our expense. In every case we have replaced the ammo can with a worthless peanut butter jar and have had no more trouble.
Thanks everyone for the comments.
On our final runup to 4K seeing as how we were already in Milwaukee we did some of the high favorite caches. Covert Cache, Joan of Arc Chapel, Watto, Witches House and X-wing Fighter. Those 5 caches have a total of 358 FAV points and are all very disserving. That seems to be how we are caching these days. Stop signs don’t have much appeal anymore. Heading for 5K now.
John & Gailah geez guys, were blushing. Couldn’t think of a better team to have our name attached to then earthlovers4. Now maybe we will have something to find close to home.
Governor Dodge State Park?
I would say if the container is still there that you should be able to log them. I have found archived caches before when I was using an out of date query and then logged them with no problem from the owner.
If I were to archive all of my caches I would expect to pick them up or else I would post a note when they were archived saying the next finder could keep them for placement somewhere else.
I just filled out a survey from Groundspeak. It had to do with Premium Memberships but there were several places where you could give feedback about other aspects of Geocaching.
One question asked “What was the worst thing they had done wrong in the last year”. I answered that allowing blank logs was the worst thing they had done wrong.
I also made several comments about how poorly Groundspeak treats cache hiders. They brag about how many caches there are worldwide but none of them are Groundspeaks caches. I suggested that cache hiders should receive a “find” for every cache hidden or maintenance checked.
We have decided that we won’t accept a blamk log as a valid log even though Groundspeak allows it. We have had three blank logs and in each case I sent the logger an email explaining Team Sloughfoots policy about blank logs and gave them two days to edit their log or it would be deleted. I had to delete all three of them and only one of them relogged with a very nice log. Just our own policy and if GS don’t like it tough! We can also archive our 135 active caches if need be. We do accept TFTC logs.
Way to go Debby. As long as I have known you, and that’s a long, long time. you have been a go getter. So go get the next 1000.
We just had a cacher post a “Needs Archived” on one of our caches that had been “Found” on July 10th. This cache has never needed or had any requested maintenance logged. I sent the logger an email and asked him why he didn’t log a DNF. He said he had found it previously and it wasn’t there anymore and he was looking for a spot to place one of his own caches. It was about 35 miles but we went and checked it and found it on the back side of a 2X6 instead of the front side, so it was technically 3″ out of place. We put it back where we wanted then emailed the guy to tell him it was in place and in good shape and I got accused of moving it. Turns out he was the finder on July 10th that had put it in the wrong place and he couldn’t find it again.
I sent him another email stating that until we or WGA archived the cache that we owned that spot for 528′ in every direction, even if the cache came up as missing!
Ya can’t fix stupid.
“how do some of you handle days with lots of caches to log?”
I keep a small spiral notebook and I make some kind of unique note about each cache and at least I can log them in the order that we found them. I hate to have to log a cache that I don’t remember anything about.
@sweetlife wrote:
@JimandLinda wrote:
Short cache pages, huh?
GC1CY6G 😉
And not one of the last 5 logs was TFTC
My Log from August 26, 2008 when Jim & Linda still owned this cache.
“Out caching when I shoulda been fixing computers but this one had my curiousity up. Thanks J&L SL”No one needs to be an English major to write 2 sentences about their caching experience. I have never heard of anyone correcting someones grammer in a log.
When someone finds one of our caches as their very first cache we always send them a “Congrats” email. I will try to explain how we as cache hiders appreciate nice logs and wish them luck in the future.
Barry, the other Forum that talked about logs was “What will kill geocaching” It went for about 8 pages before it slowed down.
I decided a while back that I wouldn’t tolerate blank logs. I really don’t care if GC.com does allow them, I don’t. I have received two of them. In both cases I sent the logger a note along the same lines as the one posted above and gave them two days to go back in and edit their log. Neither of the loggers responded to my request so the logs were deleted. One of the two cachers then re-loged with a very nice log and I sent him a thank you note. The other log has never been re-entered.
If we as Cache Hiders let them get away with it the bad logs will get to be the norm.
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