[Team Deejay]

I suspect that challenge caches are much more popular with hiders than finders. The reality is that most geocachers are VERY casual. The numbers I got from Groundspeak a few years ago was that the average member had found less than 20 caches, and the average premium member had found less than 100 caches. The medians are even lower as a few folks with lots of finds throws off the average. Most of these folks just want to go out and find a box in the woods.

The reality is that challenge caches are one of those topics that keeps coming up as “needing to be fixed”. For what it is worth, I’m one of the people defending challenge caches, as I think they are popular with the community and add to the game. Just know that sending complaints to groundspeak about people changing cache statistics, names or other minor issues will tend to drive the decisions the other way. (You can complain all you want in here!) As Gwen said, often these changes are due to changes in the cache and need to be made. Most of the time, people will be making caches easier (both D and T) to attract more finders. It is going to happen. To be safe, I suggest you just find 10 or more caches at each spot, then you won’t have to worry.

[Team Deejay]

I should have said something when you mentioned Hungary. You will want to be very careful selecting your caches, as some people will create virtuals while calling them traditional caches to slip them past reviewers. On the geocaching.hu site, they will be clearly identified as virts, but on the geocaching.com site, there is no indication at all that there is no container. Unfortunately, the reviewers there don’t go a good job of keeping up with NA logs, so these often go for years before a reviewer finally notices and archives the listing. I’ve not seen this anywhere else (probably because you couldn’t get away with it anywhere else.)

[Team Deejay]

The CheezWis id was held by jthorsen.

[Team Deejay]

I don’t believe the intro apps show anything but traditionals, so don’t blame it on that.

[Team Deejay]

The two mile limit only refers to false coordinates for mystery caches. There is no limit to the distance between actual stages of any cache, including mystery caches where there is “something” at the listed coordinates. (OK, really, there is a limit of 12450 miles, unless you get permission for an outer space cache.) There used to be a multi which started in Kenosha County and ended in Superior. The cache owner listed as a terrain 5 because you would need to carry a few pair of boots to make the hike!

[Team Deejay]

Actually, I believe Ken was WGA2 for a short while.

[Team Deejay]

Well, the state statutes protect those who give permission for recreational activities on their property, but someone can sue you regardless.

[Team Deejay]

Also, Waukesha County has a GIS site which will tell you who owns any particular piece of property.

[Team Deejay]

The strange thing is, this virtual could actually stay there after they move the house, as it is doubtful that the hydrant will be removed. Something tells me that the cache owner will not make that choice, however.

[Team Deejay]

If you have trouble in trees, you will have big trouble in skyscrapers. Even with a Garmin 62 series, I get a jumpy response in downtown Chicago. Manhattan will be even worse. Plus, the people placing caches in these areas often don’t take time to get good coordinates, so relying on aerial maps doesn’t always help. Here are some hints:

1. Read the cache page. If the coordinates are bad, someone will usually post a spoiler log where the cache is located.
2. Use a “better” GPS. An old Etrex or a first generation Magellan probably will be useless. Make sure you have reasonable maps on the GPS.
3. Take along a smart phone so that you can look at aerial photos.
4. Maybe try to make a local friend for phone-a-friends on the Geocaching forums.

Note that it is not the end of the world to log a few DNFs on vacation. Post your DNFs quickly and someone might contact you with help.

[Team Deejay]

OK, the reporting form has been updated with the new list.

[Team Deejay]

OK, the internationally famous Woodland Nomad took care of the Hoyt Park Cache, who apparently managed to figure out that it was NOT in FDL. Anyway, I have added a few more to the list in the Cache Rescue section, so I will be starting to just list the needed caches there. (Thanks Brian for the help!) I think we can all agree that we don’t need to build a long thread of “I got this one”, plus you can get some LCG points for doing the rescue.

On another note, I’ve had at least one person tell me that they didn’t have the coordinates for their cache when I asked them to add the coordinates. If you fall into this category, just let me know and I will add those for rescue as well.

[Team Deejay]

Thanks to Uncle Fun, we now have coordinates for the Simon and Garfunkle Tribute Cache and The Petrified Cache.

We still need the following:

Self – Discovery Cache GC5CE9
Beulah Land GC2919

plus, from the other thread,

Three Bad Ribs GC112D
Hoyt Park Cache GC21DD

I will try to do a few more tonight. Also, our esteemed webmaster has modified the Cache Rescue system to have a new mission type, Report Waypoints. So, if you have good records, you can get some Cache Rescue cred (and LCG points) from the comfort of your couch. I will add the 4 caches here in a couple minutes. If any one who has already reported coordinates wants credit, just let me know and I will add the mission for you to log.

[Team Deejay]

If you have time, Barry, I would definitely appreciate it.

Also, thanks to a team of cigarette smoking sea birds, I now have the final coordinates for “The End Of the Earth”. Thanks, HuffinPuffin!

[Team Deejay]

Thanks to WoodlandNomad, we can take Mr. Elver’s off the list. (Only 2 existing caches in conflict with that one, not that I’m going to do anything about it.)

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