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Please refrain from posting logs for 2010 until Jeremy gets the page updated. Apparently the program needs a date update.

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Congrats! I followed in your footsteps a bit yesterday.

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Actually, even if you list a virtual stage as a SoaM waypoint, it still will not be considered a physical stage. We used to do this, but it was too inconsistantly enforced. If it is a physical stage, it needs to be at least 528 feet from all other physical parts of OTHER caches. The only exception is firetacks.

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Would you like some help getting started? If you haven’t installed the Palm desktop on your computer, that is the first step.

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The good news is that you can always add the maps later. My guess is that you will find the base maps to be approximately the same value as “no maps”. But, if you don’t need a map at all…

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Double post (my system got stuck for a minute.)

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The rule was posted back in 2006, but they didn’t get around to blocking it on the website for quite a while. I’m not even sure it is blocked now. The problem is that absentee owners aren’t going to process the adoption anyway.

I will say that original idea of waymarking was to replace virtuals and locationless (creating a waymark is like a locationless, visiting one is like a virtual). As waymarking hasn’t really taken off as planned, virtuals were never moved over.

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Yes, but the problem is that it 80% of the logs on those caches are coming from Germany. Obviously he needs to add some sort of requirement that is not internet searchable. Maybe you could contact him and suggest that he adopt these caches to you (since I have already sent him a nastygram, maybe he will be amenable.)

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@RSplash40 wrote:

In that particular cache (and 2 others nearby) you can’t email the owner. I drove to and completed them all in one day got all the required info and even had a nice chat with the owner of one of the subjects. I’m not so sure I get the point of the dylanesque one but the others had some historical stuff related.

It also is a bit of a bummer that GS will not let someone adopt a cache when its very obvious the original owner is long gone. I understand the why but wonder if it couldn’t be re-evaluated and possibly changed. Maybe something like (oh geez, I just got marc’s posting) allowing someone to make a new virtual and archive the other(in the case where there was existing one, not saying allow virtual creation again, just replacement ones).

But pretty sure that won’t happen.

I just sent him a mail through the site that seemed to go through. Why do you say you can’t send an email?

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@furfool wrote:

@Todd300 wrote:

@furfool wrote:

Today I started planning my route to and fro for the planned march to the “Eagle Source”. I figure if time allows, I could collect a couple of counties and DeLorme pages along the way. While looking at a page for a virtual, I noticed that there were two finds a day or two apart. Both finders are from Germany. After looking at the profile for one of them, and looking at their stats and finds, it turns out that they have cached in numerous states, from the midwest to the southwest. Unless I missed something, all of their 88 finds in this country, are virtuals. How odd I thought. So I looked at all of their traditional finds and found them to be almost 100% in Germany and France. I also noticed that they cached in quite a few foreign countries. Imagine, such world travelers and only finding virtuals? After seeing their finds in the US of virtuals, and where they found their traditionals, I quit looking any further. I was just too pi__ed off. Talk about arm chairing it.

Furfool, I’m guessing that finder is Geocachingdog. He’s since been banned by Groundspeak. More info on my blog as I wrote about it last week.

The specific cache that I was looking at is
GC9AED. I didn’t take a very close look at the latest log, from Dec. 9th, but looked pretty good at the one prior to that.

Amazingly, that cache has the required answer in the hint. Gee, I wonder why they get armchair loggers….

Seriously, the maintenance guidelines are much more strict for virtuals and webcams than for other caches. As the owner of a virtual, you are expected to monitor the logs and ensure they are legitimate. If someone complains about an unmaintained virtual to a reviewer or to Groundspeak, the owner will receive a “maintain it or archive it” letter. This happened to a handful of virtuals in the Milwaukee area, where the owner had added “you don’t have to email me the answers” to the cache description. (Gee, I wonder why they got armchair loggers…) They did start deleting logs, but by that time, their caches were on certain websites in Germany with lists of caches which could be logged without visiting. 50-60% of the logs had to be deleted. Eventually, they just gave up and archived them.

Now, you may think that Groundspeak should take some action against the armchair loggers, but their policy is to not do this unless the logging becomes abusive (such as repeatedly relogging the cache after the owner deletes the logs). I don’t really agree with this, but that is the policy.

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Maybe you are hitting back and then forward. That would do it on any browser.

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I suspect this is caused by a particular browser. Using Firefox, I have never gotten a double post (and I hit back a lot.) I believe this behavior is specific to IE 6. If you are using IE 6, try upgrading to the current version.

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Incidentally, the attributes got removed when every other program except GSAK choked on the files. I suspect they will be back once they develop some sort of option to include or exclude the attributes from the file.

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Isn’t Labrat’s a brand of Canadian beer?

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I guess I would have to disagree. A few of the caches would be tough in snow, but most of them are rather winter friendly. I’m trying to think of all the hides, and of the ones I have found, the only ones that would be trouble were a very specific type of hide, of which there were about 5 of them in the series. (I’m talking about you, Jason!) If you are used to winter caching, even those should be fairly easy for you. Just bring your shovel.

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