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I’ve got plenty of firewood if I can get some help felling a dead birch tree in the Kenosha area…
How ’bout a “Chili Dump”, where everyone brings 1 Qt. of their favorite chili recipe and it all gets dumped into one kettle???
TDSG & Zuma
Gosh, Golly, Gee, and awwww shucks… My name is Greg, not Ghandi…
Yeah… I myself have used a poor choice of words recently while dealing with issues in a different WGA forum… I think that I just need to get out and cache more…
@-cheeto- wrote:
Being a cache owner, regardless of who the logger is I don’t see reason enough to delete any of those logs. Perhaps the one about the “micro” would upset me as a cache owner and would be dealt with in an email to the logger.
Coordinates being criticized is extremely common.
If you’re truly placing a cache near a headstone in a cemetery, being another cacher who may someday find the cache I would want to know that info so I can filter out that cemetery cache as I find it disrespectful to hunt near headstones. That’s just my opinion though and not the opinion of all cachers and certainly not the opinion of the WGA Board of directors.
Have you ever met Deejay in real life?
I, like yourself, try to be as respectful of WSQs, as possible, especially when placing a cache as I would hate to have a cacher get into trouble over one of my placements… We use the term “not on or near any markers” when placing WSQs, the definition of “on” is obvious but “near” is open to interpretation, I still feel that if a cacher has an issue with the “nearness” (is that a word?) of a cache to a gravesite, it should be addressed in a PM or in an open forum such as this, not as a derogatory log… Maybe this could be a topic for discussion, many factors could come into play when discussing the “nearness” of a cache to a burial marker, all suggestions would undoubtedly be beneficial…
I have only deleted one log in regards to one of my caches, GC2F0YQ, which I believe was the appropriate, but not enjoyable thing to do…
But I digress, in answer to your closing question, yes… I have met Dave and yes… I voted for him…
It has not been my intention to denigrate WGA board members or volunteer reviewers, as at times theirs can be an unpleasant task… But, IMHO, those in office must hold themselves to a standard befitting those offices… My contention is that, while caching, it may be appropriate for those persons to leave the striped referee shirts at home and just enjoy the hunt… Geocaching was designed to be challenging to various degrees, hence the D/T rating, and in most cases caches are not intended to be “gimmes”… If in the opinion of any cacher, no matter if they’re a reviewer, board member, or whatever, if a cache has SERIOUS issues there are avenues other than posting a spoiler or a log that derides the placement… A reviewer is just that, a person that reviews potential caches to ensure that they meet the established guidelines, not someone that points out every perceived flaw that’s found in a cache… What may be perceived as a flaw to some can be something fun and challenging for others… i.e Decrypting twisted hints, some of us like doing that, (o.k. so I’m twisted, does that make me a bad person?)…
In the case of GC2ERGF, the reason that the size is listed as not chosen is that in my belief, listing the size may give away too much info… Also it is somewhere between a small and a micro, in this case, size is in the eye of the beholder… Besides, it’s been said that size doesn’t matter (sorry, I couldn’t resist)…
I may have over reacted during my rant as I was overtired and hacked off about other things as well… I’m not the habitual log deleter as some seem to surmise… I have only deleted one found log, (other than my own), and that was due to a cacher blatantly and willfully disregarding night cemetery caching rules at one of my WSQs (GC2F0YQ) in a quest for an FTF…
I try to remember that “Discretion is the Better Part of Valor” and hope that we all remember that, so that we can keep geocaching a fun pastime for all of us…
I never stated that I disliked anybody… That was inferred by others…
I simply stated that after attempting to assist a CO with a compromised cache I was labeled as discourteous by said CO…
I are not smart enuf two bee much of a “?” cacher, but we all know the effort that s|s puts into puzzle caches and I wasn’t about to do anything without informing him first… Also, two weeks is well within the guidelines for a cache maintenance timeframe… I have three archived caches due to maintenance issues, two by reviewers, rightly so, and one by myself after realizing that I couldn’t maintain it in a timely fashion…
As for TeamDJ, I respect everything that he has done to increase the value of geocaching, but I as well as many others, feel that logging intentional spoilers and publicly denouncing honest cache placements, (isn’t that the same as “calling people out publicly”???) is detrimental to our hobby…
Maybe some of us have let this whole caching thing go to our heads???
After all, isn’t caching supposed to be fun?????
@seldom|seen wrote:
I second that motion!
I can certainly empathize as well. I’ve been there. On occasion, a proximity alert will spoil a location or it will lead someone who is seeking to place one nearby to scour for mine till they come up with it.
About all you can do in this case is offer the cacher trying to get a new one published to help find a different spit and kindly ask that they keep the location of your quite. If that doesn’t work you have to modify yours such that a proximity warning will not pop up, also something I’ve had to do many times.
I used to get very worked up over everything relating to caches that were intentionally or unintentionally bush-whacked, short-cut, group-toured and the like. I went through a cathartic period at the beginning of the year where I had to choose between accepting this as part of the sport or loosing days from my life because of the stress it caused me.
Now I just laugh or reciprocate in my own sarcastic way, like publishing tributee caches for those who somehow think I am out to do anything but add value and enjoyment to the sport.
This week alone, I had a couple false “found it logs” from newbies who didn’t know better, I had a very difficult tributee cache go MIA because another cacher didn’t have the courtesy to make sure a final of mine was hidden again or pull it until it could be remedied, I had an adopted cache get archived even though I offered to adopt it back to fix it twice… the list goes on.
I have just accepted this as part of the territory now, even though going to found caches that are never hidden as well as they should be drives me nuts!!!!… and all I can do is roll my eyes and fix it.
Stick with it Peach, you are one of the significant ones out there who brings more to this game than many get out of it.
I believe that I am the cacher that s|s is referring to as not having the “courtesy” to re-hide or pull his final container that had been compromised… Let’s begin with the facts shall we??? I was approx 45 miles away from home placing a few WSQs when I discovered a silver ammo can out in the open near a public latrine… Knowing that it was a commemorative container, I had the “courtesy” to check the log for ownership info… Not knowing if it was disabled or archived I left it as is… Upon returning home I checked the cache page and saw that it was still active… Knowing that s|s was probably unaware of the condition of his cache, I had the “courtesy” to immediately PM him with the details… I also asked what his intentions were so that I knew whether or not to submit my obviously conflicting cache… I also noticed that it seemed that there were co-placers involved and had the “courtesy” to suggest that he contact the nearest one, who by the way lives considerably closer to the cache than I, to help remedy the situation… In his reply he resopnded that he wished to keep it active and that his co-placer?/friend?, was of no help, he also asked if I could be of assistance… I had the “courtesy” to inform him that it may be a month or so before I could get out that way again, but that I would see what I could do… I placed the cache on my watchlist so that I could be kept aware of its status… I was able to return to the area approx. two weeks later to place a couple more caches and while there I had the “courtesy” to attempt to re-hide his container… By this time it had gone missing though I wrongfully presumed that he or someone else had re-hidden it in its correct location as it was still listed as active… I retrieved my previously placed container and went on my merry way… Several days later I received a PM from s|s where he informed me that I could submit my now retrieved cache and asked me to relocate his container in a specified radius of where I found it… Please note that I have had the “courtesy” to not reveal what cache this is or where any of this occurred, I’m not that spiteful… I had the “courtesy” to PM him informing him what had transpired several days prior, he subsequently disabled the cache…
Now s|s if you truly have accepted missing caches as “part of the territory” and are out to “add value and enjoyment to the sport” maybe you wouldn’t be such a cynical S.O.B. of strangers who have tried to assist you… Or has being the “Puzzle King” for so long robbed you of the simple “courtesy” of saying “Thanx for trying”…
The Pirate Monkies
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It might behoove you to have the “courtesy” to review the Cache Placement Guidelines, especially the Cache Maintenance section…I thought that I would make my 10-10-10 a little different and place a cache instead… Will this count toward the total log count for 10-10-10???
IMHO I think that it’s best to try to be as accurate as possible, but as previously posted there many factors that can cause inaccurate co-ords… I sometimes cache with muggle friends and often use this phrase, “When we’re within 15′ feet of of ground zero, it’s time to rely on the ol’ Mk.1 eyeball”…
Please see the note that I posted for GC2F0YQ when a cacher was too eager for a FTF at one of my WSQs… It’s not something that I was glad to do, but what can one do when the rules are obviously ignored???
Apparently I’ve been misunderstood… All I meant to do was to point out that we should all give some time to see what these “improvements” do…
After all a GC.com account is free, unless you’re a premium member, then it’s approx. $0.08333333333333 per day… I can live with change…It didn’t take them long to make quite a few fixes… I can live without Ground Speak for just a little while…
Found ’em, can’t wait to go after ’em…
Being stealthy doesn’t always require a trench coat, fedora, and sunglasses… Sometimes attracting attention by doing something completely and obviously innocent is the best use of stealth… I always carry a digital camera and sometimes pretend to take “sightseeing” pictures while looking for an urban cache… Magicians use a technique known as misdirection to help create an illusion… Tying your shoe, checking a “loose” nut on a bicycle, or checking that “strange noise” coming from your right rear wheel, are all examples of misdirection that I’ve used in the past… Hobbling around with a cane after knee surgery was a great excuse for me to make frequent rest stops to feel for that magnetic key case under park benches… The most creative use of stealth is to let everyone see you doing something that you’re not… 😉
p.s. I was recently mistaken by a muggle couple as park ranger doing a forestry survey, I let them know what I was really doing and they tagged along to my next find… I think they’re hooked…
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