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Congratulations, Z-Man! Now work on that sponsorship thing, eh?
Ralph, We had fun with those, too. Of course, that’s how the letterbox purists do all of them. It is a useful exercise to depend on your sense of direction sometimes instead of relying on the electronics and satellites.
As an aside, except for a group who found it during an event, one of our hybrids has been found ONLY by letterboxers. Many of them have never logged their find on the letterboxing site, either, but when I went to check on it a couple weeks ago, there were many stamps in the logbook. It’s a Lonely Cache at the moment, but not a lonely letterbox.
And our Coulee Region? Maybe our proximity to MN and IA puts us into some kind of netherworld?
It’s just the funniest thing….the one I know was changed is one we got the day AFTER we grabbed the WRC in Minnesota, so we didn’t even need it. I can’t remember what had filled the chart in that slot for us, but we’ll be refilling it as soon as we can. It bugs me, but not enough to pay you, LOL.
Only one other person did the one I know was changed, and that’s the owner’s brother, who is also relatively new to the game. Maybe on his advice some things were changed out to make it easier. It really did deserve the 5 difficulty when we did it, it was a stumper!
Ack! It happened to us!
I did a new PQ, and now we’re missing a hole on our D/T chart! Thank goodness we’d already gotten the final in MN. I cannot figure out where it went, and I know we had a couple in that hole, too. It’s hard to believe both could have been changed. I found one, and the owner, a newbie, changed it from a 5/3 to a 3/2.5. No way. It was a really tough multi. But we had another long before that one and I cannot remember what the other one was. Oh well.
If they get archived, that doesn’t change your chart.
So the moral is….once you fill that chart, don’t wait around to get the final!
Ralph. No. Trekkin’ will NOT fly any neat places at all, so it is simply like salt in a wound! LOL
Glad you’re getting to all those neat places out there, though. It’s raining incessantly and so foggy you can hardly see. Makes you want to rush right back, right? 🙄
Well, if there are 5 4.5/4.5 just in Wisconsin, that’s already better odds than we had with a greatly expanded search for 5/4. We went 250 miles out from home and found……4. One was closest at 150 miles away, and I spent HOURS trying to solve it…it was a physics puzzle. No luck. Contacted the owner, who said it’s not a desk solve, we’d have to get another measurement on site. So we went to one of the other 3. These are the stories one gets by working for the goal of WRC.
I would hope you’re just kidding, because part of the reason these caches are set up as they are is to encourage people to *work* toward a big challenge.
cheeto, That very thing actually happened to us at least once along the way. We’d gotten s|s “Pigeonholed,” then he went to do maintenance, decided he needed to ramp it up, and bingo, we had to refill the hole!
It happens. If they are all filled, run and get this one quick, LOL.
He he, just so you all know…..Trekkin’ and I have or will shortly turn 55 this fall. We’re not spring chickens. Like I said…..if we can do it…..
Seriously, the ones we did to fulfill the requirements that were hard combos to find…are also really memorable. Crossing Lake Superior in the waves, snowshoeing across a tamarack swamp, climbing a tree in Illinois and going through antics to make the retrieval…..great stories we’d never be able to tell otherwise, I’m sure!
Go for it!
I pretty much followed suit from other well rounded challenges around the country, and the “placed before” is in most of them. It’s supposed to be tough, but if we could do it….anyone can. It’s not something you’ll be able to complete in your home area.
Pete, the caches can be found anywhere, not just Wisconsin (so maybe I need to clarify that in the listing. If there are questions, we can talk. We just don’t want the situation where someone puts out some “tough” cache that isn’t rated fairly, just so a friend can claim this.
Some combinations are just really hard to find. 5/4 was the toughest one for us to find. We got that one in Gurnee IL.
Jen, If having someone carve a stamp in order for you to get a LB y=hybrid out there is what it takes, PM me!
Gary,
If it has a stamp and coordinates, it qualifies as a letterbox hybrid. GPSr use plus a stamp for letterboxers is the basic requirement. Most of ours have the option of looking at the letterboxing site to get the orienteering clues. It’s not a requirement. In fact, they don’t have to be listed at letterboxing.org at all.
So if you have a stamp ready, just go find a new place and put it out. You don’t have to bother with the stamp pad. They don’t hold up to our weather, anyway. Letterboxers just bring their own pads or markers in order to do the stamping. Our new one should be in the field later this morning (if I ever walk away from the computer!) and hopefully will show up in the next day or so on gc.com.
I’m working on a new one right now, and it’s a challenge one, so I asked the reviewers to be sure it would be okay, as my “steps” for finding it are more figurative. All it needs is a stamp. Period.
That said….you can put coordinates for a starting point, then give your orienteering directions to reach the final. You can craft a story, or just list it with the coordinates to the final. I just put one log book in the cache, figuring that geocachers will enjoy seeing the letterbox stamps, too. I’m getting smarter and making my own logbook with my scrapbooking supplies, so that ink doesn’t bleed through to the other side of a page so easily. You don’t have to list it on the letterboxing site. The one I’m getting ready will be the only one I don’t list on the letterboxing site, the reasons being obvious once it’s published.
I’m thrilled to see you’re considering some letterbox placements. We really enjoy your caches anyway, so this would just be an extra little bit of fun! You can read the suggestions for letterbox placements on letterboxing.org, even if you don’t plan to list it there.
I’ll tell you, the stamped image from this one is GREAT for helping me see how to draw the mirror image, LOL.
I imagine at some point I’ll come up with some idea for another letterbox that requires a screwed up image. Maybe a daVinci one? He kept his notes in mirror writing!
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