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I would cast my lot for Hartman creek. The DNR there loves us and I don’t feel we would wear out our welcome by visiting there annually or even semi-annually. As long as we behave properly, we should be as welcome as any other repeat visitor. We also need to consider the fact that we enhance their mission with our CITO and garlic mustard pulling. I can’t think that we would wear out our welcome. ~tb
05/31/2008 at 12:14 am in reply to: Geocaching shouldn’t have to cause more fuel consumption #1889819We geocache because we enjoy it. We travel because we enjoy it. We don’t drink, don’t smoke or commute in a gas-guzzling SUV. I can’t feel guilty about burning fossil fuels on our week end trips to do something we enjoy. Yes there is a price to be paid and we have been paying it. Unfortunately, we have been paying way too much for the likes of the bureaucracies and taxes brought to us by green freaks the likes of Al Gore. Al Gore who burns enough electricity in his multi-million dollar mansion to power several modest homes. Al Gore who travels by private jet. The whole lot is a bunch of hypocrites. I will do my part to recycle and conserve, but it is not out of guilt or a need to feel superior to those who won’t. I will do this because I want to. I will geocache because I want to. I will travel because I want to. Yes I am fat, but I won’t be made to fee guilty about that either. This year, Trudy & the beast will geocache U.S. Route 66; almost 5000 miles round trip, 200 gallons of gasoline, and when we are done, we will feel no guilt or shame but rather a sense of pride in having achieved a goal. A dream that has come to fruition.
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~tbWe took this photo at GCH2X1 ground zero Saturday in Lincoln, IL ❓http://www.geocaching.com/seek/log.aspx?LUID=0d4225de-0f95-42de-add9-b972b734ec83
Here is a list of really great Milwaukee geocaches that really aren’t too difficult List
We hope you enjoy them. If you need help, call a friend: (414) 737-6150 I would be happy to help you. ~tb@nohandsgps wrote:
Page 44 of the April issue of BACKPACKER magazine:
The question asked in the article is: Are these hidden containers harmless, or do they flout low-impact ethics?YES Whether you consider a geocache box as litter or a semi-permanent stash, the practice is against national park and forest regulations, even if some land managers choose to bend the rules. “Cache In, Trash Out” is merely a public-relations campaign to overlook the sport’s clear-cut violation of many LNT principles. Even if every geocacher removed a ton of trash from wilderness areas, it doesn’t erase the fact that they deliberately left a box filled with toys behind. No individual has the right to lay special claim to any portion of our public land. Hiking should be a personal exploration, and any reward, if there is one, should be chanced upon and not tracked down by technology. -Scott Silver Executive Director Wild Wilderness
1. There are no geocaches in National Parks, and
2. Geocaching is NOT against National Forest regulations
3. Cache In, Trash Out is not a PR campaign, It is part of a geocacher’s life
4. If no individual has the right to lay claim… back off Scott Silver that would include you.~tb
@Team Deejay wrote:
Here is a different concept: geocache when you want, where you want, as much as you want. Don’t worry about milestones, numbers and the like. They will take care of themselves. Just get out in the woods and have fun!
We are with Deejay on this. The one-hundred milestone is big to you now, and it should be, but why not plan it for the cache of a friend or a nearby “Classic” that will be around long after the event is history. ~tb
@K0rpl wrote:
I am in the Mindset, that I don’t care how people log. If you want to Log temps, Go ahead, If you don’t don’t. It’s that simple. Everyone has to play the game the way that the want to. There is no right or no wrong way.
I agree whole heartedly. Nobody cares how many caches T&tb have found other than T&tb. And, we really can’t say that anyone else’s cache count makes any difference to us either. Geocaching, like any other leisure activity is pursued for the experience, for the journey, for the moment. I don’t see how posting a smiley adds to the enjoyment. Nor do I see how some one else posting a smiley will diminish my fun.
@K0rpl wrote:
I am in agreement, in that Groundspeak should crap or get off the pot, and make a decision. Then that would be the end all. Until that happens, you will have people skirting around rules Loose as they are on both sides of the fence.
Why contradict yourself Justin? Groundspeak has taken a position, leave it in hands of the cache owners. The folks in the big ivory tower have decided that they will not remove that freedom. I can live with that. JMHO ~tb
We passed this gas station just this past Sunday unfortunately, my tank was full at the time.
Here is an update…
3.69 at the local Mobil station.
It seems the oil companies have taken their hands off of my wallet and moved them to my throat.
My father was a commercial artist so I spent my whole life in an on-going personal critique of the efficacy of such presentations. Personally, I will be happy with whatever is adopted since I don’t have the talent to come up with anything nearly as good as what has already been presented (to include the current logo). Some of the board members may recall the ideas that I presented a couple of years ago and will agree that the current presentations outshine those. I do have some thoughts that I feel are worth considering:
1. I believe the current deadline for submissions is a rather short fuse.
2. There is no mandate to change the current logo now or anytime in the near future. There is only a mandate to consider a change.
3. The Idea of seeking professional help is very appealing, while the thought that a member may have the talent and inspiration to provide what we are looking for is exciting.
4. When we look at the logos of successful businesses, it is noteworthy that each is immediately recognizable. Consider Chevrolet’s bad bow tie, The MB three pointed star, The logos of Microsoft, Nike, the Olympic rings are all immediately recognizable, very simple and effective. Simplicity is a key. Of course these companies have poured tons of cash into advertising and we have no intention of doing that, but simplicity still cannot be overemphasized.
5. The logo will identify our organization, our home, our sport and our members. I want to be proud to wear it on myself, my cachemobile, my cache pages. I am sure that whatever we come up with will fill that wish just as our current logo does.
Please keep those ideas coming, we will all know when the right one comes along. ~tb
@Gusty Winds wrote:
😈 Log them all… it gets Criminal all bent 😈
And that is just too cool. 😀
Bill,
It is good to see you are still kicking 😀 We hope to see you at the campout if we don’t meet you on the trail first.
Ray & Helen ~T&tb
Rob,
We are sorry to hear of your injuries and loss as well.
Hurry on back.
T&tbWhat’s his name ❓ 😯 ❓ 😯 ❓
and didn’t I tell you so 😉
Trudy & I have taken-up new careers – snow shovelers. There is no money in it. by the time we have finished our own shoveling, we are too exhausted to go find paying jobs.
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