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We cannot work this great event into our schedule. Disney World awaits our clan

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The discussion on abandoned caches lead me to wonder how big the problem is. I don’t have any way of tracking caches with filled cameras or wet logbooks. Nor can I identify all the missing or abandoned caches.

BUT, I do know that we have about 60 caches out there that have been temporarily inactivated. About half of these have been in this status for 60 days or more and 7 of these have not been found in over a year. 3 of them were placed over a year ago and have never been found. Some of the cache owners enjoy a certain level of respect from our community for their contributions to the sport. This troubles me. I think that cache ownership involves a certain amount of responsibility. I have no intention of pointing my finger at anyone or of claiming any high ground here. I have inactivated a cache for more than 60 days myself.

If the readers of this thread have caches aging in this status, I encourage them to repair or archive the cache.

BTW we have a lot fewer caches in this status than our neighboring states. So, I believe we are doing well in our housekeeping. I just think we could do better.

tb

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I would like to give you a hand, but Wednesday is my late night at work.
tb

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Steve,

I took no offense by your remarks. My post should have been an e-mail to Auntienae or it should have included greater detail. I have learned from your response.

Jeff,

I have mixed feelings about the topic of limits. If we had a rule stating 10 or 20 or 100 finds before placing a cache, we would never have gotten the game off the ground in the beginning. Certainly we learn to make better caches from our experiences along the way. Then too, there are those who have an inate ability to do them well from the start. I am reminded of a cache on the Carroll College campus placed by a cacher with zero finds. It is one of the better urban multi-caches that we have had the opportunity to visit. I think that the greatest damage to the environment that we see is the volunteer trails that are formed while a cache is still new. Once the caches in our area reach a year old, visits become sparse and the damage is greatly reduced. I think that the cachemeister should be given as much freedom in determining when to archive as possible.

Other cachers have adopted their own sets of rules regarding this. Badlatitude retires his caches at the end of the year and brings out a new crop the next year. We look forward to this. We have chosen to retire ours when we feel the time is right. Hence, the decision to archive our Brown Deer Park caches. Some caches are icons: Pike Powder Hike and should not be archived unless absolutely necessary.

This topic has been an issue before and will be again. I believe we will see disagreement then too. My greatest concern is that we not place restrictions on the game that become difficult to live with in the future… eg: No Virtuals.

Keep on caching,
tb

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Originally posted by skarolek:

I’m trusting that I don’t know the whole picture because from my outsider perspective, your judgement seems awfully harsh.

Steve K

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Steve,

The fact that there had been other attempts and the sister’s intent was to contact the cacher that day. I think that 24 hours should have been enough. Admittedly, We energies or SBC Ameritech would give a customer a greater notice, but we aren’t talking about a paid service here. If the cache owner would like to restore the cache, it can be brought back up with a simple request to bring it out of Archived status.

After ten months of owner inactivity, posted DNF, and e-mails, my personal call to a cacher is a last resort. If the cacher has an interest, then taking the cache away from him may be the best way to get him to heed our concerns.

tb

[This message has been edited by Trudy & the beast (edited 06-16-2004).]

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I spoke w/ the cache owner’s sister yesterday and she was going to leave a message for him to get back to me regarding the cache. That hasn’t happened. I would take this as evidence that there is no longer any interest on his part in this cache. I have suggested that it be archived based on this.

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Cool. The trails belong to our youth. Keep on caching.
T&tb

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Kudos!Keep on caching!(verb)
T&tb

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We have visited a fair number of Virtuals and have to admit there are a lot of very good ones out there.

Kit’n’kaboodles’ Hammerin’ Hank, Piggsville, or Old Testament Name
Yawningdog’s Ephraim Wetlands
Thraxman’s Moscow
Socko’s Chapel or Witches House
bjbest’s Lime kiln
Miata’s Red Hunter
Geotripper’s Crossing or Skavlem House

are all contenders, and there are others. It is difficult to pick a favorite.
tb

[This message has been edited by Trudy & the beast (edited 06-11-2004).]

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Auntienae

We wish we could have been there. I am sure this will be one of your most memorable milestones. Kudos.

T&tb

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Originally posted by Miata:
I did close to 100 caches in the last 30 days…

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What? are you out of work again?

Kudos Miata! that is a great pace.
Do you remember the day you hit your 10th, 25th etc. Wow we got excited for those! Now our landmarks ars in 100’s. Congratulations and keep on caching.
tb

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Kudos,
Keep on caching,
tb

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Kudos brkster. We hope this achievement is as great for you as ours was for us.

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I noted from the team profile that they have never activated the account. This leads me to wonder if they might be active under a new name. I would start by sending an e-mail to Team Revkem through their user page to determine their status rather than relying on the user page activity.

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Originally posted by kbraband:
I stand corrected. Cache can be used as a verb. However, as Jeff previously pointed outif you want to be completely correct, it refers to the act of storing or hiding, not to finding. So if you say you’re going to cache or going caching, it implies you’re going to hide or store a cache, not find one.

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So we took a little liberty with the language. Can that be so bad? afterall it is French

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