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@neonride93 wrote:

Thinking out loud – 3 caches – 7 states – can we do 21 counties in one day?

That challenge I completed 2 weeks ago w/KCSearcher. We did 4 in a couple of states and grabbed TWO FTF’s in Iowa. We need 2 per state, but if we can grab 3, then you guys will also qualify for the one up in Appleton.

I will double check the challenges and their requirements this w/e. Getting slammed at work and I have a vacation day tomorrow that I do not want to loose. Should have the routes firmed up also this w/e.

Can you PM a phone number so that I can call you this w/e?

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@Team Deejay wrote:

That is not correct. Brown county considered a fee but chose not to have a permitting process at all. Only Dane County requires a fee for processing the permit.

OK. Someone had told me the wrong information before. Good to hear that there are counties that “play” fair. Fees are fine, as long as they are to offset real expenses. They should not be there to make a “profit” or to offset some other unrelated expense.

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I have heard that Brown County does.

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I talked to the commander some time ago. He mention that he was going to look into this and have a talk with his county supervisor. I never asked him how that went.

One does have to ask what cost(s) does that fee go to cover. It is not the same type of cost associated with someone using a park building. There is no cleanup after each find. 🙂 All it is doing is keeping us from bringing people to their parks. I believe that the WGA events stay out of the county/county parks because of this fee policy.

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@neonride93 wrote:

First Come First Serve for

WI Hibiscus and lmcgisme

Or anyone else I guess – I also pitched the idea to my grandma ( inbedby10 from Water town ) and she said she would possible if we need to fill up a vehicle.

First firm commitment from anyone gets the 4th seat?

Good call on the Park and Ride lots. There are several around. I will check them out to see which is better to us. I will look at how busy they are so that we are not they only cars there. First thought is the one at American Family Center – Lot 13-04. It is located where Wis 151 and US 39/90/94 all come together.

I am sure that your grandmother would enjoy getting out with some new people! 🙂

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It sounds like with NeonRide93, GeoBill and WI Hibiscus, we will have a full car. If Lisa McGrath (lmcgisme) joins, we will need to determine if there is room. Hard one to figure before departure time. 🙁

I am tweaking the route to squeeze decrease drive time. Down to around 19 hours, w/o stops. I need to then update the posted routes on GC. I will then start making a more finite list of target caches. Hope to have the revised route(s) done by tomorrow. A lot of dragging the route around to agree with Topo USA.

I will have a TomTom loaded with the caches. I can create an route to all of the caches for it using GSAK. With that we can set the target time to arrive in MI and then track if we are on schedule.

I would say that we can leave vehicles at the airport long term economy parking. $6,00 per day. Payment is by credit card only at this lot. It gives us easy access to the interstate to LaCrosse. Looks like a departure time of around 9:30 to get us up in LaCrosse around midnight.

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@neonride93 wrote:

I like this more and more – yea I am on a budget so no hotel is a huge plus and I am hoping we can squeeze into the Go Kart – 2011 Ford Fiesta

(http://www.edmunds.com/ford/fiesta/2011/) ( I cant assess any image hosting sites from work so the link will have to do )

with yes a 12 gallon tank. I usually average around 35 hwy. Coffee and more Coffee will be our friend.

Who else do we have? I pitched it too WI Hibiscus and she is contemplating.

Lisa McGrath is the only one that has indicated that she might be able to join us. She needs to check graduations, etc. first. Get WI Hibiscus on board and we are set. SmashingGround was going to join us, but needs to be in OK that w/e.

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@neonride93 wrote:

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Are you going to be able to drive it all? I can split duties with you so that you can rest. On the 4th of July, I stay up all night and cache until morning in Milwaukee. Last year I was up for 28 hours.

Yea – I was more or less volunteering my Vehicles 🙂 The little car is a stick – so if no one else can drive a stick then we can take the SUV, but yea I would want some help, taking turns.

@ 1000 miles
SUV = 18mpg @ 3.80 = 211 / 4 Hopefully 52 Bucks a person
Go Kart = 35mpg @ 3.80 = 108 /4 Hopefully = 27 bucks a person

The SUV Fits 5 comfortably so if we could get 5 that would help out. Would bring that down to 42.

Your not thinking hotel right? Just a big long round tripper

I can drive a stick with no problem. My first car was a VW Type 10. What is the the tanks size on the “go kart”? I can plug that in to the program and est. fuel stop locations. Figuring 12 gallons and 40 MPG, staring with a full tank, the first stop would be around Mount Pleasant, IA. Second fuel stop should be around Dyer, IN. That is figuring fuel stops at 1.4 tank full. Ken and I saw gas cheaper in IA and MO on our trip last w/e. It is 3.59 in Madison right now. That should help.

Searched and Iowa is 3.37 to 3.41, Dyer is as low as 3.67. Taking Elkhart out and starting in Madison, Topo USA has the trip at 877 miles (Madison to Madison)

About 20 hours from the time we leave Madison until we get to MI. If we leave before midnight and make our WI finds just after 00:01 and before we enter IA, then our 24 hour window to get all 14 caches improves.

Hotel? We don’t need no stinking hotel! 😆

I travel on dried fruit, Clif Bars and COFFEE! I figured that we should throw a large cooler in the trunk for food and drinks.

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@neonride93 wrote:

Now it Works 🙂 Wonder why it wouldn’t before…..

I had to have some keywords. First time that I have made a route public.

We do not have to go all the way to Elkhart. Just some rough planning at this point. Was thinking that if we were close, go for it. There may be a better starting point up in Madison. We need a place that people can leave their cars.

Are you going to be able to drive it all? I can split duties with you so that you can rest. On the 4th of July, I stay up all night and cache until morning in Milwaukee. Last year I was up for 28 hours.

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I add “Seven, Heaven, Cadogan” as keywords. I can now bring it up with the search.

Give it another try.

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We can always add caches to the trip, with the agreement of those on board. Beverly is a possibility, since it would be on the way back. I know where it is, as I have found it and I grew up in the area. We of course would first want to stop and sign the log(s) for the challenge(s) that we just completed. 🙂

I have just made the 2 route files that I made on GC public. I think that you may be able to find them under my profile or by searching. I have marked them public, but they do not appear when I search. Maybe that is because they are mine. Try searching for “Seven, Heaven”.

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I will have the route file(s) available soon on GC and will post more details in this thread. I am not quite sure how far into MN we will need to go to get the two required caches. It will have a departure time of just before midnight so that we can get the WI caches right after 00:01 hours. I will probably need input from all as to which WI caches to grab, as some may have them already.

Between work, tax season and the Devil’s Lake trip, getting a little slammed. LOL!

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Well, we completed the 6 state run in just a little over 9 hours. First find to last find. It was a 14+ hour day for Ken and I, with a FTF in Iowa also. We did a min of 3 caches per state. Ken had one more than I did, as we stopped for a virtual that I did back in 2010. We both qualified for the challenge in CA. and the one up in the Fox Valley (GC3DX78).

After I get done with the Devil’s Lake State Park outing, I will get the plans for this one finalized. Right now it looks like neonride93 and I are in. I think that there are one or two from The Wild Bunch that might join in also. That would be 4 people splitting the gas. Any more would be in a second vehicle.

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They had a ‘capture the flag’ TB down in Rockford area. For a while they had a requirement to create a new cache for it to be placed in. Later they changed the wording to indicate a new cache. The interpertation on that is just a cache that it had not been in.

I suspect that GC or someone jump them on that one. Getting to move around more, without requiring caches to be created helps make better quality hides. When I saw that they changed the requirement, I placed it about 2 hours from Rockford. 🙂

Looking forward to the next article!!

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@Todd300 wrote:

@Team Deejay wrote:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/WildBunchacachers/

Content not found.

It is a secret FB group. You cannot access it unless you are a member. PM your FB name and I will friend you and then add you to the group.

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