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Great job on 200 caches.
Keep it up and on to more milestones.

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Dancing at 200 deserves some applause.
Congratulations!

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Great job on number 500. My second favorite milestone. Hope it is etched in your memory.

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Great job on 700 caches!
Keep it up – you can’t let Geoff and Sara get ahead by much.
Congratulations!

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Way to go on 700!
Geoff and Sara always seem to be smiling while caching. Perhaps we should find out what they actually do in the woods.
Congratulations!

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A good friend and cacher whose skills over rough terrain are legend.
Way to go on 1400 Alan!

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Its a great honor to offer my congratulations to the Geotrippers Family. Truly amazing numbers and we all know Mike can spot a cache from 100 feet away.
Great to get to know you all!

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Congratulations Randy!
A quiet methodical cacher who scores big numbers on the months of the year he caches.
Great job!

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Way to go Ray and Helen. Looks like you made a big advance on your totals. 1000 by years end is a tempting carrot.

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Congratulations on finding 100 caches. It is still my favorite milestone. I sure you will feel the same.

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Petty? I thought they meant we were pretty.

I really must get my reading glasses fixed.

Okay everybody – back to having fun.

Kill this thread Brian before it goes any further.
I have had an urge to get this topic discussed for a while and now that it has been discussed I have found that I no longer care.

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A lot of great discussion and please Brian and the WGA board, don’t feel the need to change your agreed upon plan. I just was commenting on your request for any other pros and cons.

Sometimes when we are typing, these threads go a bit astray. Everyone should enjoy the picnic and not focus on one idea being thrown about. We just need to throw out these ideas to understand the hows and whys of geocaching in Wisconsin which can only make us better informed.

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Okay, a response was requested so here goes:

Pros

1- Not have to upload points to gps the day of the event.

2- Be able to scope out the terrain and plan the days route

3- Be able to make your own map (RPaske did a great map for the New Glarus Event)

4- Save on expense and time of those who have to put the paperwork together for the event. We could be sent all the paperwork and print it ourselves.

Also in regard to the waiver – Those who wish to get the waypoints early could print off and mail in the waiver in advance to be eligible to receive them.

As far as the board members getting to meet all the people at the registration process, it seemed to me at the campout that they were all rather busy at registration time and the intros and conversations seemed to occur much more throughout the day.

I like all this discussion of pros and cons but the main con seems to focus on whether or not the geocachers can be trusted. This theme does not excite me very much.

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I almost hate to reply to this line since whatever is said may offend someone but……
It is suppose to be an open forum.

It think it is time that the WGA board recognized that the membership can be trusted with advance information and GPS data without violating the intent of the event.

At the New Glarus Event the coords were provided prior to the event and it worked fantastic.
Some cachers even started early, the night before the event, which even helped by not having so many people at one cache at a time.
While this may not want to be done for the WGA events, I noted it as a point of reference to the subject.

I realize that the WGA hosts the campout and picnic and hence has waivers that release them of liability for the event. If a starting time is announced and the parties are told that they must sign the waiver prior to starting at that time, this issue could easily be avoided. If anyone did the event without signing the wavier, their logs could be deleted as they were not part of the event and hence not a liability problem.

I can think of no other reason that the data could not be released prior to the event.

WGA is an association meant to enhance geocaching in Wisconsin. Enhancing it would be providing the data early to those who would like it.
I think all of us like to have our GPS loaded prior to caching. How many people wait until they get to a cache to load the coords?

This is meant to make this a point of discussion not win an appeal.

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I guess the proper protocol is:

If its an event you host, you would log your own event cache if you show up.

Perhaps a locationless cache would qualify as a find if you found what is being required.

All others are probably just a case of hitting the wrong button and logging as a find when they meant a note. I am sure if this is the case, whoever it is will change it.

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